The only good thing I noticed in this year's memorial is that the speaker did not opportunistically use the memorial of Jesus' death as a recruitment tool by inviting audience members to study the bible with JWs.
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This Year's Memorial
by TD inperhaps i'm just getting older and crankier, but it really seems to me that the jw faith is deteriorating at an accelerated rate.. case in point: this year's memorial talk.
it was one of the most incoherent messes i've ever heard.
(and i've heard a lot of memorial talks over the last 50 years....).
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HBO Scientology Documentary
by tresdecu inhas anyone else seen the hbo scientology documentary 'going clear' - wow...cults are just mind-blowing you wonder how people can fall for that garbage, then you (those of us former/fading jws) look in the mirror.. i would love for someone to make a major jw documentary like this.
'going clear' is getting a lot of press.
poor tom cruise...he looks like quite the whack job in it too.
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Island Man
Did anyone else notice the parallels between the personality of L. Ron Hubbard and J. F. Rutherford?
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Island Man
Why is Jesus made of white chocolate?
Watchtower teaches that bible passages to the effect that Jesus is coming in the clouds, refers to Jesus' coming being invisible, unseen by human eyes and discerned only by the spiritually awake, i.e. JWs. I think this is the idea they're attempting to portray by painting Jesus in a color that matches the clouds in the image. They're essentially camouflaging Jesus to blend in with the clouds to portray the Watchtower idea of him coming in the clouds invisibly. If they did not make him the same color as the clouds in the image then he would look conspicuous among the white clouds and that would disprove their claiming that coming in the clouds means coming invisibly.
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The "5 Pillars" of Witness life...
by stuckinarut2 inoh, there is one brother that keeps prattling on about "the 5 pillars of faith and worship".
- prayer.
- personal study.
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What would happen if all or most of the Governing Body died in some kind of accident?
by Esse quam videri inwith the organization controlled, totally and completely by the governing body, what would the watchtower society do to hold it all together if all or most of the governing body were to die?.
would the legal department step in and issue orders?
would the rest of the gb quickly appoint new members?
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Island Man
Didn't something like that already happen when the whole Governing Body in the sole person of C.T. Russel, died? Remember there was a power grab by Rutherford where he dismissed and demonized some of the individuals who Russel appointed and who were seeking to follow Russel's directions in his will.
I think something similar could/would happen. A power hungry brother or brothers in the legal dept will seek to wrest power unto himself/themselves and expel and demonize all who refuse to submit to their power grab. There might even initially be some secret political lobbying among prominent competing brothers in the legal dept. and/or the writing dept. to see who can muster the most support to form a coalition government ... I mean ... Governing Body to govern the organization.
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If The Witnesses Try To Get You Back To Jehovah...How Will You Respond!
by minimus ini am most curious.
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"I never left Jehovah. I left an arrogant, manipulative cult that confuses itself with God and labels those who leave it as leaving God." -
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Nature of the Word "Spiritual" Amongst Witnesses
by freemindfade ineven as an atheist i consider myself spiritual, always have, metaphysics and spiritual discussions about enlightenment and so on i find interesting, even if belief in a yhwh is not in me.
i want to propose this simple definition of the word "spiritual" among jehovah's witnesses.. spiritual = indoctrination or indoctrinated.
i have been told how i'm "just not a spiritual man".
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Island Man
For JWs, "spirituality" = "how much do other people observe you performing certain acts approved of and/or required by the Watchtower Society".
Amen! Amen! And Amen!!
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Jesus Saves From What? March 2015 Watchtower Article
by Perry ini just skimmed the titled article on jw.org and once again the watchtower is misdirecting:.
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150301/jesus-death-and-resurrection/ .
they try and make the old case that jesus saves us from being destroyed at armageddon.
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Island Man
Jesus saves from the wrath of his father . . . who sent Jesus to die so that he would not have to kill those who believe in Jesus . . . because his father is a compulsive annihilator like that, who must annihilate unless he can sacrifice his son to himself to give himself a reason not to annihilate.
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If someone asked you, 'Are you a righteous person'? What would be your answer?
by Esse quam videri inwhat would be your answer?
are you are a righteous person?
on a scale of 1-10, how righteous do you feel you are?.
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Today's groundless speculation thread - so why would a German copilot deliberately fly an airplane into a mountain?
by sir82 injust can't wrap my head around this.
the guy (a) evidently did all of this on purpose, and (b) evidently had no reason at all to do so.. there is a huge chunk of the puzzle missing from this one (so far)..
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Island Man
Maybe he was an undercover ISIS recruit.